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Hey guys! So at around 34:08 I originally played the "Martha" scene in full. But whoever owns Hans Zimmer's music decided that the faint score playing in that scene was grounds to block the video! So since the video has already been up VIworld only offered me to remove that chunk of the video which left a weird editing glitch between cuts. Can't do anything about it! But at least this way the video is monetized and actually viewable worldwide. I'll probably be making a video on this issue because as some of you know this happened on the last Worst Superhero Movies video too. Anyway thanks for watching bye byeee
@Wxlfie finally someone who understands this movie
@MK lee Zack Snyder does have you not read dark night returns Bruce says how he has fallen from Grace at the start of the movie Alfred doesn't like him killing super man can't control his anger batman finds a clear path same with super man and remember batman has been doing this for 20 years as he says "How many good guys are left how many stayed that way" and Alfred said "it's that anger feeling of powerlessness that drives good men cruel" and he scowls at Bruce super man knows Bruce is dangerous that's why he warns him and he that's a hole essay im handing this out to everyone
@Daniel Keller Dude... Watch Hi-top films "Batman Does NOT Kill". Makes no sense for Batman to kill
@Ray The observer old videos Is it any good? I turned it off during lady smecksy scene and just turned on godzilla (not a homophobe just dont like watching smecksy ppl). BECAUSE I WAS PROMISED CREEPY TALL GUYS IN VENTS! I GOT A CREEPY TALL GUY AND NO VENTS! WHEN DO THEY COME IN
Yay I agree
Batman 2022 will do justice to batman
You don't even need to read a comic to know batman you just need to watch batman the animated series
20:31 goddamnit Zachary took me out
Dc makes much better animated shows but bad live action shows and Marvel makes better live action shows than animated shows.
Let’s be fair with the whole destruction scene in man of steel. There are 4 kryptonians kicking each other ass in both a small town and large city. These beings are capable of having powers that can be bring destruction. Super strength, heat vision, x ray vison, etc. So when you put 4 of them in a town and large city, you can almost guarantee that there is gonna be some destruction in both towns knowing of what they’re capable of.
Man of Steel sucks too.
@Navin George because dceu has a low standard
No It was the best dceu movie
37:06 doomsday is thicc asf 😩
21:46
Whenever he called superman a war criminal all i could think about was the comic where superman lands in russia instead of kansas and becomes a communist
I legit forced my dad to take me to this movie thinking it's amazing and I never sleep in the cinemas but I SLEPT watching this movie
Jesus. Clark is so jacked.
12:40 i bursted out
Why is the phrase "superman is boring" heard alot on the internet because of How boring he was in man of steel
yes that’s exactly it
Every Salty synder fan "WeLL YoU ArE SMart EnOUgh TO UnDERstand ThE MoVIE"
@Bluefiremark II my bad
*aren't
I actually thought it was a great movie and it didn’t deserve all the negative feedback
Say what you want about Superman Returns but that’s the most Superman feeling movie in recent time. He saves people and the people love him. You can feel it.
@Safwan Mustafiz It's not really about defending Snyder. It's more about understanding other points of view.
@zhengyingli wow you are really want to defend synder so bad that you go on every bvs and Mos video that says it's bad
@zhengyingli bruh
I thought that's the case with Man of Steel, too.
I’m dead serious here, why haven’t you considered film making?? You have a next level talent for understanding the ideal pacing and content for movies. It’s not just a “knack” or “interest” you have a TALENT. Like a scary level of talent with this. Every suggestion you’ve made, whether it’s this or Harry Potter or Star Wars or anything, you know EXACTLY what the PERFECT thing would be in the wrongly done moments, and you really should be acknowledged for this and consider actually DOING this.
This movie is a pure awesomeness (batman v superman). Extended cut brought perfection. I could agree that theatrical is bad, but extended cut is really good. And wait, you like 300?! that crap?! But this is bad to you? What is wrong with you?
@Batman And if you think I'm wrong that they ruined batman's fighting skills in this movie, then please watch this: (even though I know that you'll insult me and deny) viworld.info/rock/video/w6hpy5rSm3SXy4k.html
@Batman And do you see the fight scenes of batman? He looks like a gym guy who relies only on his weight. I thought he was good at martial arts, but he's fucking slow. Even though the comics and everything is good at batman, let us accept that this fucking movie ruined him.
@Batman Oh really, we're not talking about the seriousness of this movie, because everyone does appreciate it evem though they crack multiple unfunny jokes. And don't get me wrong I too am a dc fan especially for batman. However, batman who is the man of plans, and the master in martial arts GETS FUCKING PUSHED BY SUPERMAN. I mean batman should've attack first rather than wait for superman to attack him.
@Bluefiremark II i am not saying everyone is stupid, where did I say that?! Some of us maybe want to see more serious superhero movie, is that too much to ask? Some people don't want to see stupid jokes, can you understand that? Is it possible to fit that information in your head?! Go watch Thor and Tom Holland's Spider-duice, you are not for anything better than that.
@Batman what a joke. You snyder fans don't understand what deep means, and substitute it with an excuse to say its good and everyone else is stupid.
He’s saying suicide squad is the worst but like haven’t u watched Batman and robin 😬😬
You are trying to make a profit off of criticizing movies, which is fine, but you are following a hyper-critical formula and knocking GOOD movies. Nice oration, but stop.
the first time I've heard of superman was watching man of steel and now I hate superman
When people ask me what’s your opinion on man of steel My response is always: meh, it’s aight
"it would be cute to show his morning routine " and im out
Now that the Snyder Cut of the Justice League is out, I hope to see a more integrated verse of these amazing classic heroes. They always had potential, but were offset by the cinema cuts, bad directing and of course, Joss Whedon. That said, criticism are still criticisms - Batman v Superman was pretty horrible. Thanks for the great video.
21:06 batman should kill. Realistically ysoeaking he should. Its the fact that he doesn't that makes him interesting. Id also argue thats why we have Jason Todd. Red Hood is basically Batman if he killed people.
How in the hell did Zack run through years of lore in one movie.. 🤦🏾♂️ movie sucks.
Batman killed in the Burton and Nolan films. Also Bill Finger and Bob Kane had Batman use a gun and kill people in the comics in Batman's first 2 years. Also the 60s Batman killed one guy by kicking him out of existence. Stop trying to gatekeep superheroes! Ironman, Captain America, and almost all of the Marvel superheroes kill people! Cap killed Nazis for fucks sake and Tony killed middle eastern Arab terrorists while saving refugees and villagers! Wolverine depending on who you ask is either an anti hero or superhero and his claws are used to slice and stab people!
@Death To Fascist Trump He said that Darkseid was an exception.
@Shea Except for Final Crisis when Batman used a gun to shoot and kill Darkseid lol.
The comics in which Batman killed in were retconned.
@Safwan Mustafiz that doesn’t make your comeback good but okay
@CJ Productions have more likes than you
Bro zack synder fanboys are something else some of them are now calling wb abusive and racist on Twitter just for not continuing synder verse 😂😂
They abuse their power? Hmmm let’s think other then Snyder idk the fact that they tried to cover up Bill Finger as the co creator of Batman for years. Until the fans pressured them to acknowledge Bill Finger.
@CJ Productions how are they abusive
@Safwan Mustafiz abusive yes, racist no
@CJ Productions OK but is it right to call them abusive and racist
@Zenitura Gaming That’s not what I said...... calling people out and being toxic is bad but they should voice their opinion on Snyder’s movies being mistreated.
batman v superman was epic compared to suicide squad and birds of prey and the constant rambling exposition of one harley quinn
I liked the movie but this is funny, and he pointed out everything I didn't like in it
Fucking hell, okay watch the movies again but actually you know... watch the movies. Pay attention to the plot and dialogue and you'll get it. I know that might be a little hard but you can do it!
@Zenitura Gaming what is complex about bvs
@Zenitura Gaming clam down lmao
@Cooper GoCards34 How?
@Joshua Carlin to be fair you need a high IQ to understand snyder films their themes are subtle and nuanced and the average viewer can't even grasp their sheer complexity
@Joshua Carlin the movie sucks
i feel like the worst thing about the “save martha” scene, at least for me specifically, is that if he had said “save my mother: martha kent” the whole omg-our-mommies-have-the-same-first-name thing would have made at least some sense. he could have been referring to some random woman named martha even martha speaks for all i know. cut the scene shorter, save us of that cursed “wHy dId yOu sAy tHaT nAmE?!”, and make the confusing plot less confusing for a bit
I've argued with snyder fans about the scene and they say it isnt about the same name. So i ask, if they had different names and not martha x martha, and all they do is turn around and call me marvel fanboy. They can't argue with logic.
You could fix this plot in like 5 changes. Batman doesnt kill people. He wants to stop superman after what happens in MoS. Batman teams up with Lex to take him down. They fight. They find out Lex is doin weird shit in the basement and team up to fight him. They figure out they make a good team and form justice league. Its that simple.
there you go. you’ve just made bvs better.
And call it World's Finest 'cause it's sounds better than Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice
So what do you like? Theme park avengers xD?
@Crimson Spyder he's not joking. He spams this exact post dozens of times
@Bluefiremark II He’s joking
@Zenitura Gaming ahahahahahaaaaa by saying thatt you've proven your iq is low. Dude, snyder isn't deep. Every 'deep' scene people have talked about, was surface level. I could think about marvel scenes more in depth than BvS scenes.
@Zenitura Gaming lol
To be fair you need a high IQ to understand batman vs superman it's themes are subtle and nuanced and the average viewer can't even grasp its sheer complexity
30:36 This scene reminds me of Injustice Superman who is, you know, *Evil*
when i watched these movies i was left feeling very unsatisfied, almost like something had been taken from me (besides my money and time), but I couldn't put into words what it was. this. this is what it was.
Me my brother and my mum went to see this we all love marvel movies except a couple but we gave this dc movie a go and went to see it and the whole audience laughed when bat man didn’t kill super man over the mothers name and half of them left then it was so funny
But its a Masterpiece according to snyder cult
Omg! That Pa Kent voice change! Hahahahaaa good video
Wow it’s funny to see that you don’t understand this movie
@Super Tobey Productions Yes, you're correct about the whole Lois scene being a set up by Lex Luther to try and expose Superman, corroborated by later when Lex is on the room with Superman and goes on about the whole 'if god is all powerful-" speech. Howeverrrr, this scene implies that Lex is trying to "expose" Superman as not being all powerful/a god by making him GET violent and wanting Superman to get blamed for the deaths of all the men at the compound. This idea, if you don't believe me, is further pushed by Lex when he blows the capitol with the wheel chair dude so that people blame and get mad at Superman. The other point of Batman killing in other movies and adaptations is sorta true I'll admit, Batman did kill/was responsible for deaths in Nolan movies, however it is shown multiple times in The Dark Night Rises, the comics and shows Marcus shows, that Batman doesn't use guns, doesn't take well to people who do, and actives tries to save as many lives as he can (also shown in the last night when he saves Joker when he's falling out the construction building). You can say, "Marcus takes heroes killing to heart," but really, Marcus knows and understand how these character are SUPPOSE to be and act. These are not opinions, these superheroes are acting wrong in this movie.
@Ethan Cortes I’ll tell you something the whole Lois lane scene wasn’t about making super man seem more violent but to expose him as a fraud and I don’t get why Marcus takes heroes killing to heart cuz it’s like he’s never watched or read a Batman comic or watched a Batman movie Nolan trilogy he kills in Tim burton films he kills in dark night returns he has killed in the first 2 years of his existence so ye and also the lady who said stuff about super man and her village was fake she was payed by lex Luther to make this up there’s some extra for you
@Super Tobey Productions Alright, ignoring your grammar then, I believed it only to be common sense to explain yourself and what you say when someone asks you a question. Again, thank you for taking my comment to heart and being so descriptive in, "where In one sentence he talks about one problem," but I believe I understand what scene you were talking about (the part were Marcus asks what we're even doing following Lois Lane with the terrorist) and I've already watched that video. Not only does that video looks at Marcus's vid with a lens of someone who doesn't care about the principles of how these comic book characters are like in the source material, which Marcus explain in this and other video called, "The Problem With DC's Heroes," which I recommend because it explains this problem with Zack. Moreover, in the scene both you and the publisher of, "Cosmonaut doesn't understand Batman v Superman," point out Marcus asks the relevance of this scene with Lois Lane and terrorists to the plot of the movie and if, in your own words of, "read it closely," you'd understand that Marcus said that this scene was suppose to make Superman seem more violent, which didn't work because he was already proved violent and killed people/a person in ENDING of that exact scene and in the last move (Man of Steel), so there was no need for the scene to be included as it didn't make Superman seem less violent and it's not like the terrorist even came back later in the movie.
@Ethan Cortes my punctuation doesn’t matter and second of all I don’t need to state how he doesn’t have a understanding of the whole story you can just tell by the way he is telling us his “Opinion” where In one sentence he talks about one problem and then makes up a random sentence that goes against what he said a few seconds ago you even read it closely or put in the search box cosmonaut doesn’t understand
@Zenitura Gaming Alright there man, you can stop commenting the same Rick and Morty type of intellectual response.
I mean yeah, Superman could have directed Zod's sight elsewhere, but like, what was he gonna do after that? He wasn't going to stop and it's not like if he knocked Zod out that he'd be able to be put in prison.
My problem with that specific scene is that we don't see the family that zod was trying to kill after the Shockwave. He could literally turn his head, AND THEN snap his neck.
Just noticed doomsday has a but
in light of having now seen the snyder cut of justice league and the snyder cut of batman v superman i think man of steel is a better movie then it is given credit for. Man of steel desconstructs the superman character while showing the hope and terror such a powerful man would bring to the world. Batman v superman shows that hope terror fighting each other with the hope winning only after superman death and justice league is superman as we know and love him from the comics.Batman v superman is the weakest link and what snyder does to batman shows he only read the dark knight comic books and nothing else but again does make sense in terms of these movies being a superman trilogy.
What's fun about this shit and that Suicide Squad thing they dare to call a movie is that I actually have watched both of them twice at the theater. I was asked by a good friend of mine and another group of friends to go watch the movies and I actually did not want to let anyone down so I went both times. For the record, my friend stated that the only thing she liked about Batman v Superman was that scene where you see the damn horse coming out from the dust and the only good thing about Suicide Squad was Bohemian Rhapsody at the end.
33:30 it is infused with lead????? The movie talks about people using lead against superman lol
His main argument, it’s different I don’t like.
@Kuboo but it's something that isn't constructed whatsoever. We never see him go down this road. Batflecks version of this character is the most interesting, and for the director to give us very vague answers is insulting to the audience.
@DC , that’s not the directors fault. Warner wanted to build a movie universe quickly without the foundation, so Zach did the best he could. Which is pretty good if you ask me.
@The Golden Cross , it has always changed depending on who’s writing the story and that’s what I love about new interpretations. This isn’t the first time we’ve seen Batman do things like this
@Kuboo dude stopvspam
@Zenitura Gaming BvS is so smart dude i mean to do The Death of Superman and The Dark Knigth Returns for the second film where You don't have enough of a conection with the emotionless Superman and don't know anything about the past of Murder Man but oh it's the thing i know form my Books on Screen so pretty smart
This movie is better than Batman FOREVER, Batman and Robin, Thor, Thor 2, The Hulk, Captain America TFS... I mean hahahahaha people just want to destroy DCU for no reason.
@El Hombre Tonto I guess that's why you named your account the way you did. For those that don't know spanish "El hombre tonto" means "the stupid man". Thank you stupid man 🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's like a gay been homofobic or a religious complaining about God. Hahahahahahahahaba
@Marcos Morales they are more smarter than you
@Marcos Morales You Know is really cool that You warn us of your stupidity
Batman Forever is Better than this picce of shit the other ones are on the same page
Idiots alert 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Led can also block radiation and that is what x rays use to work
That smoke bomb batman used super man wouldn't be able to use his ex ray vision because early on in the movie when bruce was making his gadgets I saw that the smoke was led and in the comics led was the only thing super man can't see through
19:46 for all of you who wanna know the truth about batman v superman
Bro you don’t understand this movie. Watch it again and stop complaining. Look at it with the perspective of the full arc along with the Snyder cut moron. Superman isn’t Superman yet in this movie until he comes back alive. Batman isn’t the old Batman in this movie, it’s a more darker version who’s been fighting for 20 years. Dumbass, stop complaining how it’s not like the comics. Imagine if everything from the Harry Potter books stayed the same in the movies, what’s the point of watching the movie just read.
Dude....are you forreal rn. He literally made a vid on how he was wrong about it with the Snyder cut, but regardless you're calling him a "moron" because you want him to "look at it with the perspective of the full arc along with the Snyder cut,"........like, this vid was posted before the Snyder cut was even released and if what you're saying is that this movie is only good and complete with something that wasn't in what Marcus reviewed.....THEN WHAT MARCUS REVIWED IN THIS VID ON IT'S OWN IS BAD MAN.
@El Hombre Tonto Oml I knowww, scrolling through these comments and seeing him again and again with the same Rick and Morty response, literally stfu.
@Zenitura Gaming oh shit You again what are you doing man
Damn, it's like you really did something there.
Did you watch the same video as us?
Watching this in 2021 when the snyder cut finally exist... and its amazing
8:20 bend over boy. Why? There's a penny on the floor Oh cool. Yeah don't pay attention of what's going on behind you Ok Bends over Inserts
I like your videos but you come across a bit full of yourself when you act like people can't enjoy something you hate. Don't be Roger Ebert.
@OrangeMustard bruh 😂😂
@Zenitura Gaming ok i think this a Joke You wouldn't post that 100 times rigth so please tell that it's a Joke
@Zenitura Gaming when will it ever be enough
@OrangeMustard to be fair you need a high IQ to understand batman vs superman it's themes are subtle and nuanced and the average viewer can't even grasp its sheer complexity
I agree, this guys entire career is shitting on other peoples work instead of intellectual critiques
That is nothing like a Dragon Ball fight they actually tried to keep their fights away from the city so they don't destroy it you the movie they don't give a fuck
Hey dipshit Batman Fanboy! Batman creator Bill Finger had Batman use a gun and kill people in the first 2 years after he was introduced. It was only when the editors told Bill that Batman should never kill. Also Batman killed in the Burton films and even the Christopher Nolan films! Fuck Bob Kane for stealing Batman from Bill Finger!
@Colonel Stars And Stripes Hey dipshit Batman used guns in Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns! Also Batman in the main DC Comics used a gun to kill Darkseid LMAO! Thomas Wayne Batman uses guns to kill people! The Grim Knight is basically Punisher Batman using arsenals to slaughter criminals and people! (Mic Drop)
@Samuel Gaskell Zack Snyder's "Punching Man" You realize Batman spends most of his time beating the fuck out of poor people like any billionaire scumbag would like Lex Luthor! So many incarnations of Batman kills people! The Batman Who Laughs, Soviet Batman, The Grim Knight, Thomas Wayne Batman, Tim Burton Batman, Nolan Batman, and many others!
@Disfatt Bidge No I meant in general I defend bad movies I like BVS but I’ve defended movies like Captain Marvel and Homecoming two movies I didn’t think were good.
@CJ Productions So you admit BvS is a bad movie? At least we agree on something.
@Disfatt Bidge I defend bad movies too when I disagree with the criticism but aight ;)
God i love your videos its very funny and interesting. I almost peed because of your funny videos
Not saying thay Henry is bad as Superman, but honestly I feel he gives more emotion when he's a villain rather than a superhero
Because zack snyder only read fucking injustice and that superman was evil
I love this movie. And man of steel and Zack Snyder’s Justice League. I love the whole dark tone. And glad it’s not filled with corny ass one liners like marvel movies are. I still love marvel too though lol BvS is a great movie.
Really dumb take on the Zod scene. Ok so he aims his head up high. Then what? They keep fighting forever destroying all civilisation on the planet (they've wrecked a city in a few minutes fighting)? He can't imprison him. Zod won't ever stop. What other options did Superman have to solve the problem??? Indeed there's a few really really stupid takes. Like Batman is angry at Superman because he kills people and Superman is angry at Batman because he kills people... Literally neither is true. First Superman doesn't kill people. He killed Zod when he had no choice, he's the least killy superman we've seen on the big screen. Secondly he's angry at Batman because he's a vigilante and is branding people, not for killing people. Batman does kill people. Well done you got that right. You know like every other Batman incarnation on the big screen... He's not angry at Superman because Superman kills people. Superman doesn't kill people. He's angry at Superman because Superman is a dangerous all powerful alien. That is the world's biggest nuke and could go off at any point, his dreams show him what would happen if Supes does go off. It is nothing to do with Superman killing people and everything to do with a non-person having unlimited power... Hence why he doesn't kill him once he sees him as a person, once Louis convinces him not to. It really isn't that hard or complicated. Just watch the film 🤷♂️ I know it is a bit of a mess, but it shouldn't be hard to follow for anyone with even a cursory grasp of comics. Like if you had no grasp of comics I could see someone who's a bit slow getting lost, because it is a mess. But let's not invent problems to put on a film that aren't real 🤷♂️
1. You say that Zod would never stop once Superman turns his head. But we don't see the family right afterwards once the Shockwave happened. Is the family dead or alive? Superman could've turned his head and then snapped his neck. That's something. 2. Superman actually does kill. He literally throws other kryptonians towards debris and 7/11 and then they fight through the SEARS and the IHOP. Right after that, Superman and Zod are fighting it out in Metropolis. You're telling me no one died when they were going through buildings? If Superman was smart, he would fight Zod somewhere else. Maybe in a LESS POPULATED AREA? And for Batman... He should only have a vendetta against Superman, I'd be fine with him having the mindset of killing Superman. But why tf is he killing everyone else and branding them?! He literally sets fear on both criminals AND civilians. Why is he a murderer? Zack and every other director should follow this rule, SHOW, DON'T TELL. If they don't show it, then it isn't factual. After the hate towards BvS and on Zack for having Batman kill for no reason, Zack literally pulled an excuse out of his ass to hide his own truth which is that he literally thinks it's cool to see murder and violence.
He definitely made this video because of the Snyder cut hype
Wtf half of the video is about Man of Steel? Did I read the title wrongly?
You're mad he critiqued Man of Steel for half of the vid becaussse.........?
I like this movie....even better with Snyder commentsry
I tried to watch this three times and kept quitting in the first half-hour. Today I finally learned how that pos ends.
"Lois and Clark" was the perfect idea for a series. Captured Superman's sincerity, goodness and good humour. That first season is some great 1990's TV.
yooooooo, like a sitcom!!!! something like friends or full house, ya know? its about louis and clark trying to raise a fucking super human child! thats brillia
Synder fans:"OmG YoU pUt ThIs BeLoW CaPtAiN MaRvEl Ur JuSt A SnYdEr HaTeR"
This is single handedly one of the dumbest movie reviews, I have ever seen, you hate these movies and give Captain Marvel and the last jedi a passing grade.
@Elijah Simpson r/whoosh
@Bluefiremark II yet your forgetting I'm talking about Marvel and DC so why the fuck are you saying this isn't about Marvel and DC
@Elijah Simpson hm must not be talking about marvel or dc movies then.
@Bluefiremark II good films By that mean you mean Films that don't stand out from each other, Barely rewatchable, and have the same goddamn humor every 5 minutes
@Elijah Simpson it has nothing to do with marvel or dc. You want to know why it is disliked? You want to know how to get people to like it? JUST MAKE A GOOD MOVIE. Marvel was successful cuz they made good films?? People liked the dark knight, but now everyone's like meh with snyder. The difference is not dc or marvel, it's just being a good film
“But he doesn’t like get r@ped in prison that could happen in my movie”-Zach Snyder
@gayfuk captain marvel literally gets more powerful every time the plot wants it to, wtf are you on
Esteban Diaz That quote is out of context.
Bruh captain marvel was better in plot chatecters etc Ur just a synder fanboy
"I kinda came to the conclusion also that they couldn't really talk in their suits, um, with any credibility..." "... more than 4 or 5 lines and you start to notice, like wait, these are two guys ... one guys dressed up like a bat and the other has a big red 'S' on his chest, and they're being super serious about how mad they are at each other..." -Zack Snyder
These movies are just a bunch of key moments that the director thought needed to happen to build up action scenes, there’s no detail and no passion behind it
Imagine if after 9-11 you'd need to frame Bin-ladin for a murder before someone thought he was terrible, what an incredibly dumb movie
What do you mean? Didn't everyone immediately agree that Zod was a terrible person?
Snyder fanboys be like: It is a Masterpiece
@Xehanort10 you don't need to be comic accurate but you do need to be character accurate. If i took spiderman and made him an old retired man that goes back out on the street and acts like a violent batman like in BvS, i did it. But is it going to be accepted? No, people are going to HATE IT because its not how spiderman is supposed to be. Character is important. That's why marvel worked. Its consistent character. Dceu is inconsistent
Anytime you bring up any flaw at all they just call you dumb and a marvel fanboy. They can't even deal with a flaw in their movie.
@Xehanort10 that’s a point of view though. A character being complex isn’t objective, ive seen movies that aren’t considered interesting but I found them interesting. Anyone can say Heath Ledger isn’t interesting because interesting characters depend on the person who finds it fascinating. A character being interesting or not is all bias
@CJ Productions He didn't have to be comic accurate no but DCEU Superman should have been an interesting and entertaining version of the character in his own right. He wasn't.
@Xehanort10 well I haven’t seen Watchmen so I can’t comment on that. Can you not use the comic book accuracy argument, first of all I didn’t think the accuracy itself was that bad, secondly the characters in the comic don’t affect the actual movie, Man of Steel Superman isn’t comic book accurate.... okay this just means he isn’t comic book accurate, that’s not an objective flaw. That just means he isn’t comic book accurate the actions of the characters in the movies don’t affect movies. Inconsistency like any other movie or flaws from actions from the characters IN the movie are what makes the characters bad. Yes Snyder fans are like that but people who dislike Snyder’s work I find to be a lot more pretentious and narrow minded.
I really liked how Batman was able to stand up against Superman lke that.
33:32 that’s made out of lead and that’s the one thing Superman man can’t see through so that’s why he can’t see him
31:35 did you make that or is that a real clip
@Kirby Fazendo um Moonwalk imagine he sends that to everyone like Superman gets that
If it was Real the movie would be way better
Video starts at 19:41
Justice League is the only Snyder movie I like
I only Like Man of Steel and Justice League
Yes, the Snyder Cut! And the ones that came between 2017 and 2020 (Aquaman 1 in 2018 and Shazam in 2019)!
I love this movie. It has grown on me so much since the first time I saw it. It’s imo one of the best if not the best comic book movie there is. I have great respect for cvh and his reviews and opinions but I wholeheartedly disagree with his opinions about this film. It’s very easy to dislike something when you refuse to look at it with an open mind. Also it’s very easy to nitpick any movie (cinemasins style) and call it bad filmmaking. I’m calling it right now, marcus will admit to liking this movie in the future. He seems very stubborn and proud about his views and opinions, but I think he’ll come around eventually.
Just watch Tex's video -Cosmonaut Variety Hour doesn't understand BVS
@Kieran Stark also you want to what's ridiculous some synder fanboys are now calling wb abusive and racist just for continuing synder verse
@Safwan Mustafiz Same
@Kieran Stark I think the mcu is not flawless but they are good
@Safwan Mustafiz I see
@Kieran Stark oh sorry I replied to the wrong person and when I said he came out with a hotake I was talking about cosmonaut
33:33 you annoying idiot thats was lead smoke sup.man can't see through that.
Lol... this video is a waste of time
@Zenitura Gaming is this supposed to be a joke? Because if you seriously think that there is something wrong with you. Ps: "Save Martha" only intelligent people get that...
You're right, just like all Snyder DC movies (ZSJL excluded)
Like ur life
@Kirby Fazendo um Moonwalk nope
@Zenitura Gaming just to know, do you like Rick and Morty?
Superman should have kept the beard ..if you’re during modern grim Superman than he should have a beard And can we stop with capes already? DC, Marvel, The Boys, Invincible like just stop capes aren’t cool ..Pixar gets it no capes
34:17 That should have been the TITANS series batman not some alfred clone or some skinny ass batman:beyond batman i still can't believe TITANS nerfed him by making him old af, how do you nerf batman? and make him OLD nonetheless with a series titled "TITANS"
Imagine reading the script.
0:06 “A series where I help you to ignore the decay of western society” BASED
So ur telling me this movie was worse than the fantastic 4 reboot? Or all F4 for that reason.... or Steel, or Spawn,or Spiderman 3 ur deluded
He clarified that he dose near the end of the video that he does not see this as the worst superhero film made but rather the one that personally infuriates him the most.
@George Hillier when i was a kid and I saw that scene I hated it but now watching that I think it was actually good
@shahmeer ahmed don't get me wrong, any movie with Tobey Maguire walking down the street winking, dancing, and giving jazz hands can be seen as a great movie. In someone's eyes I'm sure 👌 Kids shouting out "wicked cool!" Is also top drawer. Sam Raimi was clearly down with the kids 😎🤙🤟
spiderman 3 is a good movie gonna cry?
He never mentioned that
"No stop my invisible son. DO NOT save my life."
I actually like this movie, but only the batman parts
hey man just found you on youtube great stuff!
Okay but have you seen BATMAN AND ROBIN?!?
Batman and robin is so bad that is actually charming, but BvS is bad that is laughable, and not in the good way
Batman and Robin isn’t bad. It’s campy fun
As bad as Batman & Robin was it was supposed to be stupid. BVS tries to be dark, serious and deep when it's none of those things.
@Kirby Fazendo um Moonwalk Yea but at least batman and robin is still good hahaha bvs is so bad its funny.
@Mind Freak it is a "So bad it is Good", BvS is just Boring
I died at the scooby doo sound effects when whatever her name falls And the Batman meme “omg he’s literally me☺️”
You know, I really like this movie.
33:43 Wrong, The smoke grenade was leaded and the superman couldn't see through it
Zack actually had a 5 movie plan for Superman to become more of what he’s like in the comics. He underdeveloped these characters on purpose because that’s the story he wanted to tell. It’s not because he doesn’t understand the characters
@Uncle Benjamin so if i remade iron man as doctor strange but made him give up magic to use science its good because its trash character so i could make him like the comics overtime? No, they are supposed to be themselves right away
@Landon Horn thank you I really can’t even be bothered anymore to argue with people who hate bvs anyway
@Uncle Benjamin I just wrote a whole essay deconstructing your point, fine tuning it to make sure that it was clear and concise then ended up accidently deleting all of it. R.I.P on my end. anyway have a good day sir. I do not care enough to re write the whole thing.
@Uncle Benjamin
@AACMBirdzilla23 I’m gonna guess you’re a fan of the mcu as well, which is like 20 something movies with characters developing all the time. If you like the mcu then your argument is sorta dumb
Yup this movie is trash. Metaphors about god and religion does not equal a good movie. All the messages are actually so surface value, but his cult acts like they are so deep.
@Xehanort10 the plot is also kinda stupid
The only reason Snyder's fans think the film is deep is because of the Martha scene. They rave about how it's Batman realising that he'd be no better than his parents killer if he killed Superman when it comes off more like Batman wants to kill Martha Kent for having his mother's name.
I swear, zach snyder is a 5th dimensional Brandon rodgers skit that developed consciousness all on its own
@Death To Fascist Trump let me just say, Batman doesn't actually kill people in those movies, he hurts them but never kills, and the editions you mention of Batman, they are alternate universes where some of the core values don't stick, you should actually see main universes that actually stick to core values of heroes and where the actual FK did marvel come into this, captain America was a fking soldier, it is in the job description to kill Nazis, I don't think they mentioned anywhere that iron man doesn't kill, your point is all wrong. Edit: where did they mention Wolverine doesn't kill anywhere?
@Death To Fascist Trump m8 no one cares. Zach snyder is a 5th dimensional Brandon rodgers skit that gained conscienceness if you wanna talk movies then go watch some 😂
@Q dude HOME Boy ya'll are going apeshit about Zack Snyder portraying a villainous Batman that kills people which is the point. You're not supposed to like this Batman.
@Death To Fascist Trump m8 I think you got the wrong comment or sumthin cuz wot, are you on about?
Batman killed in the Burton and Nolan films. Also Bill Finger and Bob Kane had Batman use a gun and kill people in the comics in Batman's first 2 years. Also the 60s Batman killed one guy by kicking him out of existence. Batman murdered Soviet citizens in Superman Red Sun when Batman grew up to be a anarchist terrorist blowing people up with bombs and shit! Stop trying to gatekeep superheroes! Ironman, Captain America, and almost all of the Marvel superheroes kill people! Cap killed Nazis for fucks sake and Tony killed middle eastern Arab terrorists while saving refugees and villagers! Wolverine depending on who you ask is either an anti hero or superhero and his claws are used to slice and stab people!
The point of the Martha moment is meant to be Bruce realising that Kal isn't the monster he thought; he's a normal guy with a job, a mother, and a girlfriend, and Bruce is about to become what he's been fighting all this time. It's extremely dumb, I know, but that's the intended point.
@Tigo O'Donnell Precisely. We would've seen him grappling with that decision, trying to justify what he believes he needs to do, and then finally realizing that Superman is just as human as he is (if not more) and he is about to become the same as the people he's been fighting.
Not to mention it would’ve worked better if this was the first time Batman considered killing, because he doesn’t see Clark as human, only has alien, and he realizes despite his powers, he’s as human as everyone else.
The problem is that the point of that scene was not built up from something, it never got established to the general audience that Bruce's mom was also named Martha (not many people knows or realize that) and made the whole moment felt hollow and ridiculous
We all get the intended point. It's the execution
Zack Snyder hates Superman and doesn’t know the characters - facts. Superman would never steal clothes!
And would neber be a boring ass charecter
As far as his father sounding different, I think Kevin Costner’s voice just sounds like that now. Everything I’ve seen him in for the last five or so years he sounds like that.
See Man of Steel wasn’t like unbearably bad, and if Snyder/WB bothered to make Batman his own standalone movie and a movie for flash and cyborg too, then this universe still could have worked. Cuz then BVS would be more focused on just Batman vs Superman rather than Batman’s backstory rearing its head
The best movie ever 💕
Movie doesn't suck despite i agree on everything you mentioned. Movie is good other than some head roles having a character twist.Because now we live in era that such as GoT become very popular.Ethics are out of window.